You've mentioned your wife [Robbi Morgan Walberg]. You guys have been together for a long time. Is there any advice you think couples on the show could take from your relationship?
I really don't try to use my relationship as a model of anything. What works for us works for us, and what I share at the bonfire is what I've learned from her often. She gave me a quote that I put in the show. It may have gotten cut out, but it was something I said at the bonfire, and I have thought about it a lot since, and it's a quote from Ram Dass, who was a spiritual leader who's passed away who lived in Maui, where we're shooting. Robbi gave me the quote, and I probably misquoted, but it's basically, "The only thing I could do for you is work on myself, and the only thing you can do for me is work on yourself." That's a very simple truth.
When I'm shooting the show, my wife is with me on the island because she's the only one who really knows me and can separate my truth from my bulls***, right? I always use her to say, "Did that land what I said? Did I miss something?" She'll often say, "Yeah, I thought you were going to say this, and you didn't." We are in that conversation a lot.
I really don't use my relationship as an example of anything. My relationship is a very long one, which means that we've had to battle quite a bit over lots of things because life is messy. That's why when I say stuff at the bonfire, it doesn't come from a PhD. It doesn't come from having gone to school to learn this. It comes from a rough and tumble, beautiful relationship that I have and what I feel like I've learned, or at least I can share, and you can make your own decisions of whether it's worth it or a load of crap.
Would the two of you at any point have considered going on "Temptation Island?"
There's no way in hell. We engage in conversation that's really intimate and really deep and really confrontational and really honest all the time, but I don't think we would've done that. I don't think there was a time in our life when we would've chosen to do that in a public forum. Robbi is a very private person, that's my wife, and I tend to be really private. I love doing the work, but I don't particularly need to be famous at all. I'm happy to be working.
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